No ones ever done that from my neighborhood. The third season of that show is premiering in this year, 2017. Everyone feels very strongly about everything. Jerrod Carmichael: Me, the kids in the neighborhood, my family, everyones involved. Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behavior or unique IDs on this site. There were so many characters. By comedian Bo Burnham HBO stand-up special immediately after walking onstage from the United States2 NBC sitcom the Carmichael '' Sure. Jerrod Carmichael: His story is so interesting, and just him starting so late or getting the recognition so late. Jerrod Carmichael: For instance, we were just talking about habits so its going to seem like it immediately contradicts it but even open mikes, I wouldnt do the exact same open mikes every time because you do what you do well and move on to the next place; stay in motion. The closest I came to a Plan B was that I was in LA for a little bit and I have an aunt in New York where I was like if it doesnt work for some reason here and Im just homeless, Ill go stay with her. Focus on the content. I just kind of talked and talked way too fast, and got off the stage. A lot of mothers of my friends also, their sons and daughters are on them about drinking more water. And regardless of whatever the Hollywood Foreign Press Assn.s past may be, this is an evening where we get to celebrate, and I think this industry deserves evenings like these, and Im happy you all are here. It was one of the nicest things. Yeah, this is genuinely hard. Jerrod Carmichael: Thats perfect. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, on Saturday night, my entire Saturday, I dont go out, really. Then they were like, Who thinks it was? And it was just me. You mentioned the food, which for me is extremely key. Jerrod Carmichael: Good from great? Ill talk to her for a few minutes and then Ill do other calls. Jerrod Carmichael: Oh, man. I pretend Im at the bottom of a well, and every face that I see, I imagine them being the face that peers over the side and has the ability to help me and rescue me from something. It wasnt just like a couple of friends and me with camcorders, this was HBO. I was very. Hes such a performer. Thats what I liked; it worked everywhere. Jerrod Carmichael: Dont disregard, dont dismiss anyone. Jerrod Carmichael: Someone will be like, No, I was doing face at the top of the well for 30 years! Well find out its in the Tao Te Ching. I wasnt doing anything. Tim Ferriss: Oh, man. Tim Ferriss: You mean in terms of immediate feedback? Give me a second. Tim Ferriss: I really enjoy your work. So you go to the same place, you sit in the same spot so then you can ignore everything and just be directed inward. Jerrod Carmichael poked fun at Tom Cruise at the 80th annual Golden Globes. I never had a curfew. How the awards came back from the brink, Golden Globes voters in tumult: Members accuse Hollywood Foreign Press Assn. Everybody, let's be a little quiet here. So much going on in Los Angeles today. There are a lot of people on a balcony. But he said he wasnt too interested. Performs "Ari Told Me I Lack Focus," presented by Berkeley Repertory Theatre. People in the back, lets be a little quiet here. I was hot because competition, it drives you. I dont sleep a lot. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, where the scene is not necessarily strong. Jerrod Carmichael comes out as gay in an HBO special about his family's secrets April 1, 2022 "I'll be totally honest with everyone here tonight. I dont know. Its very literal. Be alone. Tim Ferriss: Alright, guys. Also, validation is important from outside sources. Theyre going to be like: fuck off, kid, number one. Jerrod Carmichael opted for brutal honesty as the host of the 80th . But it is that. Do you wake up at a consistent time, generally? Tim Ferriss: Hes a prolific generator of ideas. Tim Ferriss: And then shortly thereafter, I think I told you about this, we have all sorts of exciting sounds going on. It may or may not have been the case that I had one or two glasses of wine. But Ive come to appreciate things that I always disregarded because I heard them to often. Do you like to read? you see someone, they do a set and they just bomb, and theyre new, and they come off and you can tell that theyre totally demoralized. Youre being asked to host this show because youre charming. He said, Youre being asked to host this show because you are one of the greatest comedians of a generation., But Stephens Black, so what does he know? All Transcripts from The Tim Ferriss Show! So it was just pretty insistent. I havent been walking as much as I used to. Who, for the sake of this monologue, represents every Black person in America. What is this kid doing? Jerrod Carmichael: Ill write down general and specific things. Tim Ferriss: Your onstage persona seems, and maybe this will sound strange, a little darker than your in real life persona. People in the back, let's be a little quiet here. [12] [13] He has released two stand-up HBO comedy specials: Jerrod Carmichael: Love at the Store (2014) and Jerrod Carmichael: 8 (2017). [2][10] His first HBO stand-up comedy special, Love at the Store (2014), was directed by filmmaker Spike Lee and filmed at The Comedy Store. We have a wooden horse to the left of us. Tim Ferriss: You mentioned Malcolm X. Meaning you didnt want to do it where you didnt feel the scene was strong? Is there any particular commonality for you? Your eyes never move away from him while hes onstage. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, I bought a lot of the same, like white sweatshirt, grey pants, like Timberlands every day. 's past may be, this is an evening where we get to celebrate, Carmichael said. Im happy Im here. I am your host, Jerrod Carmichael (applause). Bo Burnham, hes a friend of mine but I mean it wholeheartedly; Bo Burnham because hes one of my favorite people to just watch perform. You're hiding his relationship from your mother. Here are your biggest questions about Jerrod . They were like, You know, Jerrod, Helen just really wants to educate you on the changes the organization has made in regards to diversity.. My emotional response; its like capture it. Tim Ferriss: How did your parents help foster that? Jerrod CarmichaelRIGHT NOW is who y'all swear Dave Chappelle still is. I think there will be a moment for everyone where you will probably feel extremely uncomfortable, offended, or both and that is good for you. Or I can find the title. You're hiding it from - that you know from your father. thats absolutely true. Jerrod Carmichael: Hey, let us release this. Jerrod Carmichael is a household name now thanks to hosting the 2023 Golden Globes, but among comedy fans, he's been a big deal for a very long time. He also stared as Freddy, opposite Rose Byrne, Susan Sarandon, and J.K. Simmons in The Meddler, which was released in April 2016. Jerrod Carmichael: Choosing the right friends; choosing the right people to be around that will spark certain things within you, and knowing how you can use each other and how you can contribute to each others lives. Its kind of going back to what we said earlier about focusing on just myself and the work. And before you know it, Im at least spares on every frame. Magazines, Or create a free account to access more articles, Read Jerrod Carmichael's Full Monologue From the Golden Globe Awards. "We're so excited to have Jerrod Carmichael host the historic 80th Golden Globe Awards," Hollywood Foreign Press Association president Helen Hoehne said in a statement in December 2022. Jerrod Carmichael: Just in every situation, youre kind of that guy and eventually, you accept it. Can you tell us about this? I mean youre up, you jump into some rehearsals or something. If Im sitting with someone and the deal theyre pitching sounds great but I just feel off around them, I pay more attention to that now. You can take those four. Jerrod Carmichael: Oh, Kwami Nayeri. Because we all have a million plus thoughts a day. I play it sometimes and try and write it but I just want to figure it out. Hes got a million things going. He breaks the news after a story about his dad getting caught cheating. One minute youre making mint tea at home, the next youre invited to be the Black face of an embattled white organization, he said to more laughter, as the audience warmed up to his jokes. And so many ideas; Ive never met someone who has as many ideas as Evan. "I am your host, Jerrod Carmichael," the comedian began, "and I'll tell you why I'm here. He said, and feel free to refute this. And Im happy you all are here, and Im happy Im here, and I hope you have some fun tonight. Emotionally, its just like if I dont think this is meaningful, then Ill cut it out of my life. Ill go back to that; Ill absolutely go back. My mom was more nervous; my dad was really encouraging. I dont think Ive been. Tim Ferriss: I see a poodle and it looks like its on the edge of the precipice. Jerrod Carmichael: I just wanted to experience the rain. Just like I know what Im good at, I know what my abilities are and anything else, I dont really care about. So this guy is going nowhere as up, as far as I can tell. Jerrod Carmichael: Listen to yourself. What am I, going to do a couple parades on weight? Ive never been a guy ho got into novels, and were talking about science fiction. I have to use bad grammar with this: you aint gotta do nothing. Because that first moment, you just jump into a thing. The closest I came was within my first year doing that. Ill see you guys. Jerrod Carmichael: Thats actually brilliant. Tim Ferriss: The bolognaise at John & Vinnys? We were supposed to pick sides as a class. Jerrod Carmichael: Rothaniel (2022) | Transcript May 24, 2022 Features Jerrod Carmichael in a standup comedy show at the legendary Blue Note Jazz Club in New York City. Its just in stacks; I just have stacks of the shirts and stacks of the pants and just grab the one off the top. Its really fun. I had skipped a few lines, HBO is written in big letters and I wrote just a couple of sentences of how I wanted it to look and feel. You're hiding the truth about your father's relationship. I wanted it just to be real and an exploration, like these certain words that are captured. At all. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. By Selome Hailu. He directed and starred in the comedy thriller film On the Count of Three in 2021. And I only really in the last few years have felt very comfortable in my own skin, and its because Ive started to, I think in part, pay a lot more attention to that. Tim Ferriss: This is such an important topic. If you settle down a little bit, Ill tell you whats been going on. Clothing or all these things as they relate to work are important; like its a lot of intention behind, like I said, wardrobe for the show and that type of thing. Jerrod Carmichael: My grandma would get me some for Christmas, the little small, pocket-sized ones. You might want to apply logic to your dreams and beliefs. Tim Ferriss: Alright. Is it something that your parents really instilled in you? Tim Ferriss: I love that. The two stars began to stew after Jerrod Carmichael made a joke about Will Smith at the 2023 Golden Globe awards on January 10, 2023. You know, be like Bob Dylan and start painting, you know what I mean? Because again, in this environment you dont want to make people uncomfortable. Then we sat down; we had a bite to eat maybe 20 minutes ago and you had scrambled eggs and blueberries. But it was really, really fun; thats true. Ill be honest with you: Im a little torn becauseone, its a great opportunity; thank you for the call. [13][14][15][16][17] He also served as an executive producer for the Fox sitcom Rel (20182019) and directed Drew Michael's stand-up comedy special Drew Michael in 2018 which was acclaimed for its unusual style. Jerrod Carmichael: I wish I remembered who wrote it but I read the Humphrey Bogart biography that I loved. Tim Ferriss: When do you remember, if you do, your first memory of working on comedy, or being funny? The Tim Ferriss Show is one of the most popular podcasts in the world with more than 900 million downloads. Were you doing open mikes at the time or was it just through social interaction? Its incredible just watching Evan. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. I was just wearing the same thing; it was perfect. Tim Ferriss: Yeah, a 10x compounded disaster later. [23], Carmichael lives in New York City. Tim Ferriss: I had my first-ever walkthrough tour of the Comedy Store by Bryan Callen awhile back. But like any good thing, we found a man who knew who he was by the time he achieved stardom. My friend Angelo and me liked to used to point to the lines and assign them to certain comedians. This year's Golden Globes host, Jerrod Carmichael, garnered gasps when he mentioned Whitney Houston 's death during the show -- something the estate was equally . So I guess technically, I didnt bomb but it was a soliloquy. The Hollywood Foreign Press Assn., the Globes host organization, underwent reforms to diversify its ranks after a 2021 Los Angeles Times investigation sparked conversations about the the groups ethical and financial lapses and a lack of diversity among its then-87 members. We dont get caught up in things that dont matter tomorrow. So do with that information what you will. After a Times investigation led to a revolt of Hollywood publicists, NBC pulled last years Golden Globes awards telecast. Im here cause Im Black. Mind you, I was like 19, 20 at the time. Comedian and actor Jerrod Carmichael prompted gasps as the host of the Golden Globes on Tuesday night when he made a joke about Scientology, Tom Cruise and the mysterious wife of the head of . So that was kind of the first experience. Like seeking any shortcut or easy answer is always a mistake. And logically if you look at history, youll see the things that fall out. F or all of its controversyracial, financial, ethical, and morethe Hollywood Foreign Press Association made one smart recent decision: to hire Jerrod Carmichael as the host of the 80th Annual. "I thought I'd never, ever come. But LA, it really is the best and you want to be around the best. [8] Working his way up through the clubs he appeared in the "New Faces" showcase at the 2011 Just for Laughs Festival in Montreal. I think some people have recorded in there since, and especially in that room. Thats like an exercise for just people in general but it really means that everyone does have an ability to give something to you, and just kind of looking for that and searching for that first in people helps tremendously. I was like, Woah. You know? Tim Ferriss: They of course have the power to say no, right? Jerrod Carmichael will not be addressing the elephant in the room, as he made very clear in his opening monologue on last night's Saturday Night Live. Im trying to squeeze in a few more new experiences and things like that when I can, but I find myself getting bored constantly. In the summer of last year, 2016, Jerrod reprised his role as Garf.. Were you waiting for someone? And I kind of forget that, like, where Im from, like, we all live by a strict take the money mentality. 323. The point that I think we might be able to unpack a little bit more is hes mentioned You talked about the newspaper earlier, and I guess it was Kwami? The first show, I was still kind of like a producer; I was still cameras and this type of thing and a bit more hands on. How did you know you were good? Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, I did new material. I dont know what it is. For then-25-year-old Carmichael, the meeting was a dream come true. If youve seen Neighbors, he did that in the Universal comedy sequel Neighbors 2 opposite Seth Rogen and Zac Effron. Tim Ferriss: Thats my programming, too; late, late nights. "I'm not going to talk about it,". What is the world doing to us? You can try and get yourself out of it; you just kind of have to release it. Enjoy! Hell also appear in James Francos The Masterpiece, set to be released in 2017. Really, it was like Bryan Callen, Dov Davidoff, Bret Ernst would look out for me, Al Madrigal would look out and all these people were just like really Bill Burr was so nice to me. Oh wait, I can be anything? GROSS: When you figure out your sexual orientation, you're hiding that. I dont really need to hear it, he said. Are there any other autobiographies or biographies that you could recommend? Even when he lost . Jerrod Carmichael: Ladies and gentlemen, Jerrod Carmichael. You have reached your limit of 4 free articles. Tim Ferriss: When you moved out here to do comedy, did you have in your mind any backup plan? So there are two things from Evan that I wanted to make sure I hit. Tim Ferriss: I feel like Ive been cheated on by Evan. They were excited. So its important to be informed. [4] In 2005, he graduated from Robert B. Glenn High School in Kernersville, North Carolina. The main source of income for his net worth is his successful career as a stand-up comedian. Stephen Hill is a great producer, and he said, Jerrod, really, Im honored to be making this phone call. He said, Im producing the 80th Golden Globes, and it would be an honor if you would agree to join as the host.. How did that happen? You want to make sure the intention is showing and sometimes it doesnt. Tim Ferriss: If you had to give, say, a TED Talk for something youre not known for, so it cant be comedy, cant be television, cant be writing; what topic would you choose? Tim Ferriss: To achieve that state of zero fear, Im sure repetition has a lot to do with it but lets say before your special, the first special, what did you say to yourself before getting on stage? Could you imagine if I just rebelled? Jerrod Carmichael: Really the two first career goals I remember, I wrote down that I wanted my first time doing standup on television to be HBO, and I wanted a show on NBC. tart your morning with some comedy and light entertainment news as we cover Dave Chappelle, Joe Rogan, Jim Gaffigan, Bill Burr, Chris Rock, Kevin Hart, John Mulaney, Ricky Gervais, Tom Segura, Pete Davidson, Marc Maron, Theo Von, Bert Kreischer, and all your favorite comedians, Plus late-night show Jerrod Carmichael: My mom was a secretary at the hospital and my dad a truck driver. He said, Who thinks the crime wasnt justified? And everyone in the class except me raised their hand. Its August and the sun is up, and there are just comedians in the back. Its such a new, scary world, especially entering into comedy or television or film, and youre looking for answers. Tim Ferriss: Its like no, no; thats actually really deep, if you think about it. A guy came into the shoe store I was working at. Theyre gonna fire the first one? Jerrod Carmichael: No. Dramatic Competition, This page was last edited on 11 January 2023, at 23:11. It is arguably the funniest stand-up special Ive seen in many, many years, and its the reason I initially reached out to have Jerrod on the podcast. We talk about how he gets so much done. Im going to sneak it into the show notes for people interested. Whatever. Tim Ferriss: This is a Sunday; as context for people. "Jerrod Carmichael: Rothaniel," which was directed by comedian Bo Burnham, was lauded for its brutally honest, yet extremely funny, personal account. Tim Ferriss: Is this just a general catch-up? Melissa Harris-Perry: It was the weekend after the Oscars, and his monologue was all about not talking about "The Slap." It earned him another Emmy nomination for Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series. Oh, that was fun. Tim Ferriss: Alright, so what made you good at selling shoes? One person was manning a keyboard, typing everything in. So its not the typical fast cut, 18-year-old making videos for 12-year-olds set up. It left me in total hysterics on a Trans-Atlantic flight; some wine might have been involved but it terrified everyone because I could not stop bursting out laughing out loud while other people were trying to sleep. Tim Ferriss: Is there a particular way you end those calls? Tim Ferriss: Is this in the original room? Jerrod Carmichael: Sit alone. Transcripts may contain a few typoswith some episodes lasting 2+ hours, its difficult to catch some minor errors. Now, remind me which award show is that again?, And I told her what the show was, and I told her how last year didnt air because of the no Black people thing and she was like, Well, how much are they paying you?, And I said, Well, Avery, its not about the money. I cant remember what it won. Jerrod Carmichael: You know, finish line. Now, just 29 years old, and what this North Carolina native has accomplished in that short period of time is mind-boggling to me, and I know a lot of productive people. Its funny but its not the way just the guy at your job is funny; its different. And she pushed me really hard to do it. Its so well written. Tim Ferriss: How would you describe your family and childhood? Sure. I notice the people who got it and the people who didnt, it was like certain truths sound really cheesy. Taped in the round, and in front of an enthusiastic crowd in the historic Masonic Hall in New York City, this one-hour show features the affable and unassuming Carmichael offering up his sharp, subversive take on a range . I didnt think about that. So we read an article; I dont know specifically what it was about but it was a guy who committed a crime and we were deciding whether or not it was justified. Jerrod Carmichael: Were in too different channels. Jerrod Carmichael: No, I started comedy in LA. Carmichael made an appearance on Tyler, the Creator's fifth album IGOR in 2019, narrating the album using short phrases to find logic in the title character Igor's state of mind. He never sits during meetings. Tim Ferriss: We can have it run on the credits. So watch that, and youll know why I reached out to Jerrod. He didn't wait long to get to the point. The most unique thing you can do is be yourself. Its not just this floating thought; its an image that you have in your head. And if you visit him on social media right now, he has zero posts on Twitter, on Instagram @jerrodcarmichael, and 2017 is going to be his biggest year yet. And I actually feel amazing on 90 minutes of sleep. Whatever.. Find out where you can contribute because its not always through work. This site is anAmazon Associateand purchases through Amazon links may earn an affiliate commission. Jerrod Carmichael: Like wait, like what? But maybe a grey sweatshirt. Jerrod Carmichael: It is very exciting. Tim Ferriss: If for whatever reason at some point you stop liking comedy, lets just say, but you need to keep yourself busy, what would you do instead? So please enjoy my conversation, as wide ranging as it is, with Jerrod Carmichael. Just dont listen to anybody. The Tim Ferriss Show Transcripts: Krista Tippett (#223). You're living with them. But really, any notebook will do; just any notebook. Tim Ferriss: Ill leave it at that. Its a good government job.. It worked in any place that I went. If I just stopped liking comedy? But New York LA, you know, really New York for just repetitions sake. I mean everything that is old is once new again. Jerrod Carmichael: Ellen DeGeneres is so good. Congrats to them. COMEDY. I had a really specific vision. If you look at it and you write down a goal, you have this image now in your head. This episode features one of my favorite comedians of all time, and he is a young fellow, Jerrod Carmichael. Like right after this, Ill go meet up with him and well go write and we enjoy it. Its basically just this is what happens if we get a divorce but it doesnt ensure youre going to have a good marriage. If you settle down a little bit, Ill tell you whats been going on. Jerrod Carmichael Height He is a man of tall stature. Tim Ferriss: You learn to turn off your interpretation of that. And then I believe I met Evan actually on the set of the first Neighbors. Jerrod Carmichael: I wanted it invasive, I wanted it emotionally honest. Tim Ferriss: How would you coach, or what advice would you give to a comic? But I recommend everybody check it out. Jerrod Carmichael: Yeah, a friend of mine recommended it to me. Like, one minute youre making mint tea at home. Directors --- Genres Comedy, Arts, Entertainment, and Culture Subtitles None available This video is currently unavailable to watch in your location Add to Watchlist He paces around. Jerrod Carmichael: CES and all that type of stuff, and its like Comic Con every night where youre just seeing what everybodys doing. CNN Jerrod Carmichael had a pitch for Tom Cruise and Church of Scientology in one of his Golden Globes jokes. Sure, sure, sure. Youre always excited, and hes one of the most brilliant people Ive ever met. Comic Jerrod Carmichael opened the 80th Golden Globes in Beverly Hills by poking fun at the HFPAs year of controversy. Tim Ferriss: It seems to tie back a lot to what you were mentioning earlier, which is your emotional response to different things. Jerrod Carmichael: Its just kind of general What are you doing today/ Im just curious. "You. Jerrod Carmichael: 8: Sneak Peek Be the first to review this item 1min 2017 16+ HD. People dont know how free they are. For me, it doesnt contribute to my life in a meaningful way so I dont do it. Jerrod Carmichael: Whats the last book that I sent to everybody? Jerrod Carmichael: We were pretty persistent. Tim Ferriss: That sounds amazing. Tim Ferriss: Thats very much Steve Jobs-ian; thats what he did. Jerrod Carmichael: Clothes are fun. Then you said, I dont think Ive used that adjective ever in my life.. Carmichaela comedian, actor, writer, and filmmakeris perhaps best known for last years stand-up special on HBO, Rothaniel. I hate when I see kids being inhibited. They were like, You hear about Clarences new job? I kept the hood off; just let it yeah, it was great. Jerrod Carmichael: Drink more water. They are insisting that you take the meeting. And Im like, Or what? You have to watch this. "I. Jerrod Carmichael: You disregard it, and your looking for whats the real answer? Tim Ferriss: You can de-fuck the script later. Its like it retired here. I did the other night in the rain, and it was one of the greatest nights. For all of its controversyracial, financial, ethical, and morethe Hollywood Foreign Press Association made one smart recent decision: to hire Jerrod Carmichael as the host of the 80th Annual Golden Globes on Tuesday night. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Under a cloud, the Golden Globes went dark. You dont know what youre doing. Jerrod Carmichael: 8. Tim Ferriss: How did you choose The Sellout? You know what I mean? Well, I was at home, just drinking tea, when I got a phone call from my man, Stephen Hill. Jerrod Carmichael: Which truthfully, I would have been cool with for a little while. Jerrod Carmichael: People focus on the wrong things. I dont like noise. more Comedy Drama Stand UpAward Shows & Events News TV Series 2017 hd Add HBO Max to any Hulu plan for an additional $14.99/month. Like, hes only producing this show because hes Black. And No. The language, it reminds me language-wise of Confederacy of Dunces; the language is so good. Tim Ferriss: You seems like a very confident guy. There are a lot of people kind of doing comedy everywhere. And regardless of whatever the Hollywood Foreign Press Associations past may be, this is an evening where we get to celebrate. Jerrod Carmichael: As a kid, if you dont know exactly who you are, then it leaves room for so many questions, and thats self doubt manifesting itself in that form of just questioning everything about you. Tim Ferriss: If youre getting the ultradian cycle, that 90 minutes. Tim Ferriss: Yeah, theres a lot of excitement here. I think honesty, and by honesty I mean just your own truth; whatever excites you, whatever youre excited to perform or say or do on stage; being honest to that and an understanding of perception. Hes the Tupac of comedy; every list. My mom has a great spirit; one of the purest people that I know. So it was kind of just another route to Plan A for me. I took this job assuming they hadnt changed at all. I was on my way back to my place and I was like no, Im just gonna go on a walk. Partial Transcript Highlights Below: On "Rothaniel" and His Relationship to the Audience Carmichael: The biggest thing that changed, I think, is my relationship with the audience. Jerrod Carmichael: You can kind of see it in certain people. Tim Ferriss: Thats a good point. Hes a sweetheart of a guy. Before The Times, she was a television reporter at Deadline Hollywood, where she first served as an associate editor. Tim Ferriss: Im going to try and I recommend people try the face at the top of the well exercise.
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